In this 50-minute interview, Scott Stoneman, host of the podcast Pretty Heady Stuff interviews VAGABONDS author Cassie Thornton about her new pamphlet The Hologram: Feminist, Peer-to-Peer Health for a Post-Pandemic Future.
All of the work that Cassie does is intensely concerned with the pervasive barriers to flourishing that are so entrenched in our late capitalist society–as such, she’s focused on preparing for a future society that generates health outside of the structures that reproduce oppression. We discuss her book and some of the claims it makes around how we can mobilize for that future. She explains how we have been taught forms of care that are individualizing and, in many ways, contrary to real care. Her message is essential because it envisions a means of lifting the curse of a deep isolation so that we can let the floodgates of peer-to-peer care open.